non switching systems osdd

Systems have completely different brain wiring from singletons because of the effects of early trauma. We wanted to help make sysboxes you don't usually see, especially with most system user box blogs run by endos.our main is @friends-call-me-snow-miser (if we reply to comments) and our system blog is @fromthewondersystem mod wonder It can be pretty severe., Kathy Steele, a leading expert on dissociation & trauma, explaining what complex trauma is. The person with OSDD with less elaborated parts may find this harder to do, and the perceived shamefulness of such actions and expressions may inhibit this exploration of dissociated aspects of the personality and the persons past experience. A common thought we had at the time was We dont black out or lose time, so surely we arent switching, which means this must be fake, which was incorrect for many reasons. In the end, bereft of emotions, self, body and identity, I lived. So, your article is a godsend testament to my experiences. You might have moments where you feel unreal. OSDD usually forms in the child's early teens, or even earlier. Where EPs are also less autonomous and less likely to be out, these traumatised parts of the personality can end up being neglected or ignored: if a person with OSDD has non-distinctive traumatised parts of their personality, it can be harder to give them a voice and the time and space they need to bring their trauma to the fore, than it is for a clearly individuated EP with a name and age. Has anyone researched whether, for example, potentially everyone has many voices/identities in their head, but never considered this an issue? The Plural Association is the first and only grassroots, volunteer and peer-led nonprofit empowering Plurals. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you& can opt-out if you wish. Systems that could theoretically qualify for one of the diagnosable dissociative disorders may decide against pursuing diagnosis due to distrust/dislike of the medical system, insufficient financial reasons, job security, stigma, or any other personal reason. It may be important for some people with OSDD to distinguish their experience from that of people with dissociative identity disorder and it would be good for people in this category to come forwards and write about their experience to help people, clinicians in particular, understand the unique characteristics of life with OSDD. it doesnt change much if your experience is unusual, if you can relate to a single thing from someone elses experiences, then that can help you understand your own experiences even if its a different disorder. Google with appropriate quotes. For example, ducks at the pond could be a trigger for a 7 year old alter to push their way to front, or someone calling who is a special friend for one alter in particular might trigger that alter to switch out. What are your similarities and differences between each other, what common ground can you find? A fantastic video from Dr. Mike Lloyd from the CTAD Clinic on how alters/parts in DID/OSDD develop from complex trauma. In fact, there actually isnt a 1a or 1b in the DSM-V, its a community holdover from the outdated terms DDNOS-1a/1b. In terms of other differences, it seems that as a general rule the degree of the trauma or attachment difficulties leading to OSDD will be less severe than people who are diagnosed with dissociative identity disorder, especially polyfragmented dissociative identity disorder. I just had an alter front for the first time.jn years the other night on a super sleepless night. A journey starts, one of untold emotional pain and memories horrible beyond belief. You might have moments where you discover evidence of your memory gaps, such as text messages you dont remember sending or purchases you dont remember deliberating. But other people with OSDD do indeed have less obviously distinct parts of the personality and report feeling perplexed when they read about people with DID talking about their 4-year-old part called Alice or their 6-year-old boy part called Ricky. Blurry can be an abstract concept for someone who does not have DID/OSDD and may be a little difficult to understand. I know that the bibliography says these identities must be caused from severe issues to be considered DID, but could it be that all people have many voices/identities that appear and/or disappear throughout their lifetime (in other words, is having a singular internal monologue an exception, similar to those who have no internal monologue)? Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. And even successfully obtaining a diagnosis can cause difficulties in work situations, in applying for life insurance or even travel insurance, and in the stigma that surrounds so many mental health conditions. I feel as if there are two parts of myself (yet I fear there are other parts I do not want to hear) a dark side and a light side and that the dark side knows far too much while the light side protects the dark side (weirdly) and doesnt let the two connect. OSDD fits a lot better. All content on this website is provided for the purpose of general information only. Where are my memories? But people may be diagnosed as OSDD as opposed to dissociative identity disorder simply because their parts didnt show up on cue at a diagnostic interview. It is also what happens in practice: very few people would realistically distinguish between DID and OSDD. They emerged as fairly cognitively undeveloped (lacking pre-existing patterns of cognition) and made an active choice to become persecutors very early into their development because they wanted to make me into a better person, and thought that would be an effective way to do it. I learned an overwhelming amount about the details of what happens between genetics and environment to create the dissociative symptoms and how it relates to the spectrum; so much makes sense to my situation and I learned about eco therapy, and a few of the suggestions I have not tried yet! they can't front and they're very angry about it, which they take out on me pretty much 24/7. Because I only struggle to remember when recollecting, and there is plenty of downtime between events in my brain that I just dont remember at all, and my recollection is out of order. Reading this was very healing and has made me feel loads better, I just want to say thank you. We feel younger at these times, but I couldnt put an age on it. so i guess i don't really have the space to care about their reasons for their behavior when i'm constantly feeling its consequences. The following personal communication from someone with OSDD (reprinted with permission) is revealing: I dont have parts like other people seem to. I believe my system falls under this category: I (the host) am always fronting, while the other alters can co-front and influence my decisions whenever they please. The Plural Association and The Alexandrite System have collaborated on an OSDD video in the past. According to the theory of structural dissociation (I will get into explaining the theory of structural dissociation in a later post). These intrusions may also cause the fronting alter to gain skills and abilities that they do not usually have (such as public speaking despite normally suffering from, Both full switches and "partial intrusions" of alters are described in more detail by Dell in, "I have one particular child alter who has a very good sense of humour, and part of his role is to help us experience enjoyment and lift our mood. That would be considered OSDD-1a. However, included in the DDNOS category is a commonly seen group of patients who do not have the extreme identity separation of dissociative identity disorder, but who have a range of dissociative experiences and significant identity confusion and alteration. I'm interested in hearing yall's experiences! But the onslaught and angry and aggressive voices waging violence against me in my head was a daily, constant battle. I think complex trauma also covers other issues like war and political torture but mostly we use it to think about people whove been abused and neglected as children . It may be that the alter that was at front has unexpectedly retreated, requiring another alter to quickly take control of the body in order to prevent injury, embarrassment, or other such problems or that the alter who is switching out is pushing past a weaker alter against their wishes. For example, the host may ask a more academic alter to help them to take a standardized test on a certain date. Were not doctors or clinicians and our nonprofit, our work, and this website in no way provide medical advice, nor does it replace therapy or medication in other ways. But I cant work any more, because I cant stay present to do it. Your early system days should be spent getting used to the idea of having other people in your head and getting to know said people. That includes what causes it, factors that influence its presentation, how alters are created, how switching works, all the current science behind this stuff, etc. You should look into persecutor alters and the reasons they might exist. It soon became apparent that what I had been taught was simply not true. Probably not DID, maybe OSDD or BPD. Thank you though. Who I am is not important, rid myself of self, as it hurts too much. Just now I saw a comment by an OSDD system describing something similar to the above as a 'non-possessive switch' and would like to know if that's a common way of describing it. It was easily one of the strangest experiences I've had in the now. I feel like the symptoms of these disorders are often misunderstood. If you found this article helpful, please consider making a donation. Then me, some with names and them. The good news is that 1a and 1b are not the only categories for OSDD systems. There are inevitably going to be some system members that dont play nice at first for whatever reason, but please be patient with them. There might be alters who are be unaware of other alters existence or refuse to believe so. Most cases of DDNOS are partial forms of DID which lack either clear switching of executive control, full amnesia barriers between identity states, or clear differentiation and structure of identity states. We have touched on two major differences already less elaboration or switching to distinct parts, and less amnesia. Suzette Boon reports that OSDD actually involves the majority of people who seek treatment for a dissociative disorder (Boon et al, p.10). If they have names they probably have a separate sense of self. The Dissociative Identity Disorder Sourcebook by Haddock, Deborah Bray on understanding DID. Honestly, you've described my early teens well. Instead of an alter switching to front, they can exert passive influence on the alter currently at front. I hope this can be useful to help educate singlets or even help newly found systems understand themselves more. In short, the UK-favoured ICD-10 is based on research and clinical literature from before 1980 little wonder that dissociative disorders are so poorly picked up in the UK. Switches can be consensual, forced, or triggered. Most systems will go to great lengths to hide their condition. I think there is some dissociation there. There are 4 types of OSDD, but the most common is OSDD-1 which is similar to DID. You might sometimes experience heightened or muted visual/auditory distortions with no medical cause, such as blurry vision, muffled sounds, or tunnel vision. Then we found out about OSDD, and suddenly everything made sense. so, i've had alters since the end of last year. I like your description DID NOS better than the more formal DDNOS or OSDD; it acknowledges theres fragmenting but not to a full degree. well, its both. Thanks. Thank you. Carolyn Spring Ltd. Company registered in England no 11109933. It is not easy to phrase this question, but will try: There are people out there who have no internal monologue at all, and then, of course, there is us :D on the other end of this, let's say, "spectrum". Dissociative identity disorder alter-switching is always done to keep the system functioning and safe. i haven't heard of other systems where this is the case and was wondering if anyone else had experiences like this. There might be alters who still carry onto memories, thoughts, feelings, or behaviors related to past trauma. But many symptoms may appear to be non-trauma-related, such as depression, substance abuse, eating disorders and anxiety. The most common metaphors that tend to get used for what it feels like to switch are very DID-centric. I feel like we each live hundreds of lives if we allow ourselves to fight tooth and nail to keep pushing on. Your experience feels very akin to ours (not a lot of amnesia presently, but nearly no childhood memories), so it was nice to see this witnessed outsides ourselves and on top of this writing itself, seeing another set of persons sharing that same experience. Please, feel free to leave comments or feedback in the comment section. Check this PDF for the symptoms of C-PTSD. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Then there is the whole question of amnesia. I wish the answer were easy to find, and equally easy to put into practice. Me saying no there isnt, I dont want to be crazy! The world also seems to become more fragmented during such moments, it becomes more black and white and I start to stereotype other people, too, and view the world in categories and I get an obsession with order. Its not like with GPs sending you to the right specialist, no, the mind is somehow way less easy to define than the human body, and way more complex. What is an OSDD system? Above all, all forms of dissociation need to be validated for their unique contribution to survival. I also struggle to name my alters because all together we make up who I am and none of them were ever acknowledged by the world, and to a point even myself, for so long. Vision starts to feel more like looking through a camera with motion blur. also: switching and memory dont always get along, and brains like to fill in gaps in memory with fake memories. I have no diagnosis and have only just begun to realise (in what feels like walking backwards) more and more that I am not who I thought I was But I would love a diagnosis with which I could feel I agreed. I think these lower end spectrum OSDDs/dissociative mechanisms are really hard to recognize and categorize. These other parts of me arent clear though theyre not distinct. I don't think of things as like.. they "will get better" but moreso that they will change, and that is something to aim for. I've had alters who have sabotaged my life and done awful things. Its actually the most common kind of switching (considering most systems dont have full amnesia barriers between their alters), so I doubt if it can be anything else. Sometimes might you feel like you are watching yourself, as if you are having an out of body experience. But the most violent and hateful ones could only front enough to assist in/enact self harm or such things. Required fields are marked *. You may disable these by changing your browser settings, but this may affect how the website functions. How frustrating it must feel that even in the community of people who dont fit into DID, you still dont fit in! While this disorder is hard to live with, we often lead fulfilling lives. Rather, this description is based on the literature that pre-dates the body of research on dissociative disorders since the publication of DSM-III. Welcome to /r/AskDID, the sister subreddit of /r/DID which focuses on those that wish to ask questions about Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), Other Specified Dissociative Disorder (OSDD) etc. <3. Instead of developing one proper personality, this phase leads them towards forming several personalities that we call alters. Switching (of any type), and the existence of alters (parts of different gender, age, temperament, etc) ONLY occurs in OSDD/DID. We are a system with OSDD 1b (fully formed alters with no amnesia), and we all feel validated in knowing that there are others like us and we aren't the only ones who exist as separate people and switch regularly, but without amnesia. We went from being able to communicate internally very clearly but with strong amnesia walls and difficulty distinguishing switches happening between neutral and non-violent alters (and no switches happening for a while or ever for some alters), to having all but two of us go dormant and it just being a daily head-to-head assault of violence and abuse, to taking anti-psychosis which created communication barriers in the system but obviously didn't "cure us", to years later being confronted by the disorder again and seeing alters come back from dormancy changed or fused, to finally working together coherently, to now 6 of us in a happy system striving to make a life worth having fought for. All content relatable to the DID experience is on topic. Slow switches can also indicate that the system is heavily dissociated and depersonalized and that alters are struggling to connect with the mind and body. I hope one day your plurality is something that you can take pride in. In the harsh reality of the state of awareness of dissociative disorders in the UK today, we have to just keep moving in the right direction and not be dispirited at the challenges that still lay ahead. Are you sure they don't front? Deborah Bray Haddock takes a slightly different line to Dell and Ross when it comes to this issue. My system usually falls into that categoryits OSDD 1b I think? However, this is not our typical experience as an OSDD system. Take advantage of this! Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The disorder and symptoms manifest in childhood, always. Non-switching systems, or partial DID as it's called in the ICD, are systems who have an alter always remain in front, and other alters can "only" exert passive influence and co-fronting. Others might tell you that you sometimes act very differently, almost like different people. DID NOS lacks the clarity its parts being more connected to other parts of your personality .. problematic to both describe and diagnose ( if Diagnosis is important for you ). I dont related in any intimate way to friends or lovers I remain unattached and dont know how to be intimate or close to anyone .. Sometimes this may result in an unsafe or distressing situation. People with dissociative identity disorder have at least two distinctly different identities, but some believe as many as 100 can emerge. Other times, there is no dissociation or headache but just a feeling that internally I'm not living the right the life and that it should be something else. It all seems very muddled. Consensual Switches Consensual switching is when two or more Parts mostly agree before a switch occurs. But if up to three times as many people receive a diagnosis of OSDD/DDNOS compared to dissociative identity disorder, it would suggest that the definition of DID is too narrow. 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