boyfriend stopped trying

I know plenty of people who want to be helpful but dont really know how. He might not even be aware that his behavior is making an impact on your life or how much it bothers you, so he may need to be brought up to speed. And when everything was totalled up the answer was no. I saw progress though, and it made it easier to wade though until it was resolved. Also a lot of people staying in abusive marriages because leaving wasnt an option. Seconded! All good things. Maybe not just the you he wants to make you into, but also the him who is Cool and Helpful and Makes Things Better so he doesnt want to accept that what hes doing is hurting you, because thatd mean hes not Cool or Helpful or Making Things Better and hasnt been for a while. That stupidest thing Ive ever heard bit set off major alarm bells for me, too. Nevermind the fact that none of my friends were actually offended at all, he just couldnt admit that he had a problem with something I had said. (Weirdly, by giving my anger a physical expression, I think it sticks around LONGER than if I had not worked it out.). Give him some space to take care of his things and do what he needs to do before you start making demands on how much time he should be spending with you or expecting that your relationship will always come first every single time without question. On one such occasion, I decided I needed a big vat of coconut sticky rice. (wanting to control you in not good ways), Getting angry at the depressed partner is not good. I want to challenge this. In high school, I was shy, introverted, and had low self confidence and poor social skills due to a history of being bullied in junior high and middle grade. Its hard to figure out what to do and how to do it in a way that supports them and helps them. ! I dont want to invalidate anyone who found exercise very helpful in getting better, but the reason depressed people find people constantly mentioning exercise so wearing is it honestly doesnt work for everyone. Do not copy, print, or repost entire posts elsewhere without written permission. This is awesome! They are going to find your assertiveness attractive and pleasing and be relieved that maybe they can stop worrying about you. You will never be trying hard enough/doing enough, because it is not about you. Sorry for the mix-up! He subsequently became paralyzed by any decision making because he could no longer prioritize between options without emotions. I can tilt my head to one side and see a boyfriend that this LW needs to dump *yesterday* because all hes doing is trying to build his ideal partner out of what he believes is some kind of nascent state that can go in any direction, like a bunch of stem cells. He says that he still loves me even if I dont do these things (but it doesnt feel that way to me). In detail. I noticed that when I bicycle up hills, a lot of times whatever upset me that day/week/month will start to replay at fever pitch inside my head. What did you just say to me? For example, he seems to want a skinny girlfriend, and she wants a boyfriend who isnt a nagging douchecanoe. (Why cant the government just ask married or not married? How much cleaning does HE do? The thing here is that logic and reason are being juxtaposed against emotion as binary opposites. I do find that if Im in a good place, exercise will help jump-start my mood if Im in danger of falling into a depression and it helps maintain my positive mood and energy. and it helped him maintain his desired weight/made him feel good and he thought it was delish so it meant that I should. ?, I have to step back and tell myself, hes an adult and its his path to choose, the choice I get to make is whether to help him in the way he wants to be helped, or try to control things. Bottom line is the conversation . We both loved science fiction. Neither he or my Dad told me about their doubts until I was well established and was making money, by which time their initial suspicions were funny stories, not immensely damaging and potentially hindering my progress. Id say all this really depends on the details. Anger is a perfectly valid thing to feel when a partner is depressed, what really matters is what you do about it. And hey, when you want to use him as a sounding board for something, maybe this reminder will help: Asking advice or needing help with one thing isnt an invitation for advice about everything. Let me give an example. Ideas which involve me policing my SOs behavior, rather than my SO doing it for themselves those ideas both take agency from my SO, and attempt to make their behavior my responsibility. Even though I cant even do hosting as much as Id like and my home is a bit of a mess. For example, the LWs partner can say, Hey, want to play tag with me later?, want to go kite-flying?, Lets make smoothies!, Shall we tape sponges to our feet today and pretend were in a roller derby? or insert other fun thing here that gets the job done. My husband is in a club that meets once a month when he has that meeting I have Chipotle for dinner. Im severely disabled, so maintaining social links is tougher. If your boyfriend is receptive to feedback, wants to repair the relationship, and expresses a desire to respect your boundaries, a conversation may be a healthy way for you to find closure or express your hurt. The inevitable consequences to him & many people he cared about just outweighed any potential satisfaction far too drastically. Former generations have never been as straightlaced about sex and love as they, or their descendants, want us to believe. Because I didn't have my phone, he started asking me these questions in person. In some cases, thats true. Because if so, you need to skip all the subtler steps and skip straight to Therapist, these things my boyfriend does and says are making it worse, help! Right now. Whatever you could do today is enough. Its part of who you are but that doesnt make it a bad thing. Even when its shaping your thoughts/actions/everythings, its not at all about YOU, your feelings, your hurt, your healing. The delivery guy must have thought I was pregnant. What causes these fights in the first place? If a relationship is making you unhappy, you do not have to bend yourself into a pretzel to try and make it work. Which is, when you get down to it, rather like juxtaposing a floor mop and a ceiling duster as binary opposites the opposition is purely circumstantial, there are more similarities between the two than differences, and quite honestly, if pushed, either of them can perform the same tasks as the other if theyre the only thing to hand. I think doing the opposite of that can also be helpful. I usually agree with our captain, but this time I see all those scripts as an exercise in trying to change him into a reasonable boyfriend even as hes trying to change you into someone who eats her vegetables. Be honest about how you feel. You dont get a vote and you dont get to write my State of the Me address. I found it odd at first that my marriage broke up after I got to feeling better through therapy (by my measure and my therapists.) Im starting to have a shoulders-to-the-ears reaction any time a LW mentions how logical or reasonable their partner is. Consider the ways in which your frustration with not receiving enough attention from your partner has made you more critical of . Im in therapy to recover and get to a place where I think that Im good enough & love and trust myself again (after years growing up having that constantly undermined), and therapy has been going very well. He didnt like it when I asked him to not share diet advice. He would critique all of my eating habits (If I ate a piece of candy, he would yell about how it is full of lard! and I would sit in front of him and make lots of eye contact and say Tasty tasty lard. (But again, I do think its an excellent tool to help evaluate a relationship.). On a very small and lighter note, and maybe as perspective, I think that eating whatever the heck one wants when partner is out of town is The Very Best Thing You Could Ever Do. Much, MUCH kinder and gentler he always phrased things as suggestions, and he would never say that something I said was the stupidest thing Ive ever heard because thats mean and also I would dump him. 1. Its still manipulation. Then reluctantly, because I was learning my own tastes, and Im not fond of tea in any of its many flavors. I find that the occasional session of length swimming makes me feel mentally great for a while afterwards, but I will also be exhausted for the rest of the day and not be able to get anything done, and usually experience a mood crash too. In the former case, dump him and run. When he was in a show that had evening rehearsals nearly every night of the week, I ordered personal Mahi Mahis like every single night. Well. I have two of those exes and there my collection ends! I think Captains advice makes sense because, while getting rid of LWs boyfriend would be (according to many, I read) the logical consequence to his behavior, it is also true that you owe it to yourself to state your boundaries within this relationship, should it only last for one more day. I did not in fact give up he left me. Boyfriend stopped texting me good morning. Take care of yourself. Sometimes it feels like Im absorbing the sun like a reptile or a solar panel. okay you have got a lot of permission to dump comments here and I dont want to dismiss what other people read in your letter but offer another perspective. I was going through a rough patch and he wanted to help me, and the only way he knew how was to be my cheerleader. Do you want me to smack your hand when you reach for the chips? He was always enthusiastic if i learned a new skill, or developed an improved routine, or got a new job, but didnt hassle me when I wasnt improving. Both of the above. Dont sit around waiting for his call or text message because it could go on all day without either of you saying anything at all to each other just texts back and forth that dont really say much if hes not initiating the conversation himself. A big part of the reason I gave up running for four years is how much it keyed up my anxiety about being good enough, being fast enough, and my shame about how much strength and speed Ive lost since high school. Guys, on the other hand, typically view themselves as weak and incapable if they voice their feelings or lean on other people for help or support. If you love someone, why are you punishing them? One of my partners was doing something like this for a spell there. I watched my parents relationship work this dynamic for years. And from the sound of you, you are taking care of you LIKE A BOSS. Ive been on both sides of the Have you eaten a food today? LW, your story really, really made the back hairs of my neck stand up. You need people who are delighted by you and people who see you as competent and great. Or at least he meant something. (Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson, Illuminatus!, [possibly mis]quoted from memory., So, heres the thing about exercise and depression: everyones mileage will vary on that. Or is he expecting you to just bootstrap your way to optimal nutrition and well being? So far so good. This may also disarm any exes who set out to be hostile. Regarding being able to change people: LWs boyfriend is *technically* correct if he continues with his controlling behaviour, it will almost certainly change the LW just not into the the happy, healthy LW he is trying to sell them. It seems unwise even if someone asked me to do it, let alone unsolicited. He used to love calling you his girlfriend, he never missed an opportunity to flaunt you off as if everyone was supposed to know that this time its serious. But when theres anger, that flips the whole dynamic on its head. You are not the only one. Hello, me from the past! So many hugs to you. Which in turn meant that every time he took me to a surprise, he could justify it by saying that I always had fun so I just needed to trust him. Do you still respect each others autonomy and understand that help is there to be offered and accepted but cant be forced? 1. I hope so. Id been through worse. The impression Im getting from your letter is your boyfriends goals are mostly about him, and making him feel good and making him look good. Let's discuss four things that happen when you actually stop chasing a man and how this affects the relationship. So now I absolutely have all these weird shame issues around food, which is probably why I could barely eat around my various romantic partners for yearsits just a crappy thing to do to anyone. I dont know if your boyfriend will ever accept that your moods are part of the package but there will be someone who will. My ex-husband was horrible about trying to fix me and getting really mad when I didnt want his help. The Captain makes some excellent points and the writer would do well to consider them seriously. If you are an academic assigning my posts in your courses, Id appreciate an email with a copy of the relevant syllabus/assignment for my records/CV. So, my friends often come over here. ), the only logical course of action is taking that into account when youre dealing with people. Actual logic is about statements, facts, reasons, not about How Logical I Am. Its a bit like regaining your sense of smell after a bad cold: not the sign that youre fully healed, but you are going to be ok. I cant leave my house very much. I think your depression might be getting better, and I think one of the indicators is that you are not automatically agreeing with your boyfriends list of shoulds for your life. And should usually comes from a not so great place. This has gotten him in trouble a few times. And remember you are AWESOME for taking care of yourself and making such good progress. A lot of times he may have hinted you before that there was something that bothered him. Can you talk with your therapist about what options are there for you and work with them to make a plan? Its hard to cuddle with someone you just arent connected to. It makes me feel like nothing I do will ever be good enough, that he will always focus on what Im not doing instead of what I am trying to do. They are tools that we need to use precisely because we always have our biases clouding our judgment, and they help us cut through those to get to the essential facts. "And if . My next question is maybe an obvious one, but what would happen if you didnt have a self-appointed expert on you and what you should be doing jump down your throat about all of your life choices or give you the silent treatment in your life at all? The BF sounds like he is familiar territory to you, treating you w/ the disregard & disrespect that as a child you were taught was your due. It sounds like your boyfriend has a dysfunctional relationship with your illness. We ended up breaking up about a year later. didnt care to be badgered about things and it needed to stop. The best way to spark your boyfriend's interest and get him to call and text you again is to start genuinely loving your life. While I didnt see any helpful scripts for the well-meaning partner in this situation, this post did help me understand better how she might feel. As a result, I let him pick most of our destinations for dates, because I wasnt going to invite him someplace and then push him to pay for me. Only the writer can ascertain the true lay of the land, and Im very pleased shes seeing a good therapist; she seems to be on the road to recovery. When I was in my early 20s I was a mess. Ugh, people who think their duty to hound you into achieving your potential is more important than your need to be listened to when you say you dont like that and they should stop! Thank you for the link. All the love and respect in the world, dear Terrible. I think you are going to be just fine and that you know what is best for you. There are the ones who will, when lovingly-but-firmly redirected, go and renovate the bathroom instead, and then there are the ones who wont. Reasonable. Release your grip and be open to any possibility in your relationship. Some things Ive done to help encourage my partner with quitting smoking (which he successfully did years ago, yay) and exercising more are: think of specific, loving things you can do that might help this wont always be something you can do, but, for example, when he was trying to quit last time, I had learned from previous attempts that part of the problem was wanting something to put in his mouth. My Boyfriend Passed Away Suddenly, and This Is What Grief Feels Like. He isnt saying anything because there are no rules anymore and nothing is official between the two of you. If this IS the case, he does mean well, but hes going about things all wrong. When I was in a very similar situation, my ex could talk for days about how my not meeting his standards affected him. When he would not go to counseling with me, I went by myself. He is like the fucking human incarnation of depression. Discussing how the medications and counseling actually work in the context of the disease helped him understand that I was doing what I needed to do and gave him some appropriate ways to offer assistance. It could simply be as simple as the fact that neither one of you feels attracted towards each other any longer. One way to equalize a relationship like this while still showing care for your partners mental health is to maybe suggest fun things to do TOGETHER. My (23 F) boyfriend (25 M) has stopped showering during lockdown and for the past 2 months has only been spraying Febreze on himself. Good luck LW, and I hope you get to see how much better life can be when someone isnt actively holding back your awesomeness. It is about him. People do get used to roles, and if youve been in the role of the sick one who needs help and your partner got used to the role of the competent one who knows what should be done and should be listened to, then you are challenging those roles by getting healthier. Something stuck out to me in your letter, you said your boyfriend thinks that if you do your healthy self improvement things then he wont have to deal with you having depression. Just a thought here any time Ive been in a relationship with someone who used terminology like you shouldnt let yourself be comfortable or relationships take work! or related, those ended up being, in hindsight, big red flaggy flags. 15 Signs He Has Stopped Making an Effort If you are experiencing some or all of the following signs, it could be that your boyfriend has stopped making an effort: 1. I hate those inspirational stories. Maybe you can get into the routine of attending a kickboxing or yoga class twice a week together. A lot of writing (calling, whatever) to advice people seems to be this. Walking is much better for me, sure it isnt strenuous (seriously, WTF????) Whether it was a lot or a little, it will carry you to tomorrow. Not okay. The way I look at it, there is a big difference between someone who has decided they need to push you to be your Best Self (which is often their idea of your Best Self), whether or not you want/need/that kind of help is healthy for you, and someone whose support and encouragement lets you push yourself towards being what your own idea of your Best Self is. 5. Cant remember him ever doing this either. I feel so much better and so much stronger. The point is, I actively try to be a better partner and to listen to what he wants, and not just do to him what I think he needs. It sounds to me as if you have some clarity on what would be helpful to you. In retrospect I think that I was correct about her commitment level BUT I still put all the focus on her rather than dealing with my own portion of those concerns and my personal issues. He no longer asks you about what happened during the day, if you had plans with friends or family, or anything of the sort. That looks like progress to me. He no longer answers his phone as quickly as before. Feeling frustrated with behaviors that contribute to a bad situation? And part of me wanted me to be healthier, and that part of me knew the answer to what should I eat was not wheel of cookies, but that part of me was not very loud and I had other stuff to attend to first (like surviving the crippling, paralyzing insecurities triggered by grad school and grappling with what an abusive buttwad my dad was with a trained mental health professional), and you know what? This is a guy who hasnt figured out that the people you love arent improvement projects. This was my first reaction, too. Like theyd be SO PERFECT IF THEY DID A B AND C. Unfortunately, the reality is that they are not there. Set the boundary with your boyfriend, let him say whatever hes going to say, and try not to internalize any of it. That's key: the minute there's no effort from both partners, then there's no relationship. That there is no end in sight, no real goal. If your boyfriend doesnt respect your new boundaries (hope he does! He is mad at you for not being good enough he wants you to feel like you have to earn his affection. Stating your boundaries might just bring his own discomfort into the open. Its scary breaking up with someone when yr already in a vulnerable headspace, but it is very possible that you will actually feel waaaay better without this dude in the picture. You know what they do respond to? Tell him the reasons why so he can understand. You can get this functionality for treadmills and ellipticals, too; if anyone is looking for home exercise equipment and if you can swing it, I wholeheartedly recommend it. He seems to need to control LW to feel in control of himself, and 2. There's no excuse for a relationship where one person does all the initiating, it means the other party is either disinterested or being suffocated by someone who wants a lot more interaction than they do. If it was, hed be asking you how he can help you heal, not telling you how to heal for him. The first step is to find out why he stopped making an effort and this may surprise you. That was published just a few weeks after I dumped my ex for basically being both of those LWs SOs. Ive been dealing with depression for a while, too. Also there are lots of little red flag actions that fly beneath the radar because they are for us a normal and acceptable part of life other people are perhaps more likely to spot them and run a mile. But that partnership is one weve negotiated and practiced over the years. I hope Im wrong, but LW, I think your boyfriend would do the exact same thing. I dont think all relationships that arent in it for better or for worse and in sickness or in health are bad, but I do think that makes it a more casual relationship and one you shouldnt rely on. Annnnnd, suddenly I understand why my husband is forever puttering about in the garden. I spent 10 years in this same spot eventually he broke up with me because I was not trying hard enough to evolve as a person. Its only been 8 months since that happened, but I havent been this happy in years. We also set aside a weekly time for Partnership Serious Talks and during that time we create a space for advice and suggestions that we then do not revisit at any other point during the week. I make weird concoctions of things that are in the house, and if theyre tasty they make it into the regular rotation! It really doesnt feel like he likes you. Take a step back, and allow the other person to show you what they want. If you have the energy and inclination to push yourself, get on with your bad self, but thats extra credit. There are other ways to address issues without him going cold on you. These are some questions many women ask themselves when they find themselves in this situation. Dude wants to deliver improved nutrition for the vulnerable? 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