Im flying that on the inaugural QF9 mar24 and certainly confirms my initial thoughts of the publicity shots that it is tighter for legroom than I would expect. As with everything Singapore Airlines does, their premium economy service is top tier, and certainly enough to make them worth bookmarking when you use our search filters. . Air Canada's premium economy seats on the Boeing 787-9 are arranged in a 2-3-2 configuration with 19 inch width and a 38 inch seat pitch. David Flynn travelled on the Qantas Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner delivery flight from Seattle to Sydney as a guest of Qantas. If you have not received the activation email, simply enter your email address below, then click 'Submit'. Would this still be the preferable row in your opinion over the other 3 rows behind and no one reclining into you? What I tend to do is when available, I assess by seat product specs and hopefully, some clear photos/diagrams revealing the product fm all angles and all available adjustment config/setting. Qantas says its next-generation premium economy seat will retain a 'cradle' design to help passengers relax and sleep on those 18-20+ hour Project Sunrise flights to London, New York, Paris and potentially Chicago and Miami.. They'll also have more legroom than the current Boeing 787 and Airbus A380 premium economy pews, with an extra two inches of pitch - 40" as opposed to 38 . Great idea for short people. Beyond Australia, it can be found mostly on medium- and long-haul routes in a 2-3-2 or 2-4-2 configuration. Didnt receive an activation email? You can of course tuck your smartphone into the cubbyhole below the video screen and top up its batteries by using that 'upstairs' USB port it'll just take longer to recharge, but on a long international flight that's ample time to fill up the tank. 3. Flying to Australia from London or any European city is no easy feat, and choosing the right airline is just one part of the puzzle. Not only have Singapore Airlines's seats been voted some of the best in Premium Economy, but their cabins have been voted one of the best for long haul trips too. below, then click 'Submit'. Well send you an email containing the activation link. SQ premium economy also 38". I value legroom more than seat width so I'd rather just stick to Y and pay for an exit row seat - it would be a lot cheaper as well! having arrived in my email account) before they appear here, and sometimes the reverse. David Flynn is the Editor-in-Chief of Executive Traveller and a bit of a travel tragic with a weakness for good coffee, shopping and lychee martinis. "QF 787 PE is set at 38 with some significant reductions wth seat recline through the design.". Seat 52 C. Duration: 16 1/2 hours from London . This all comes back to pitch, to the distance between the seats. :), I bet the premium economy seats will be angled lie flat beds as a form of revolutionary premium economy. But according to Skyscanner . The trade-off is an extra 2.45 centimetres of leg room compared to Qantas . Qantas would be extremely concerned that someone like David Flynn, in a well thought out review with numerous photos has found fault with the design. The entire aircraft has in seat power at every seat. But there's a trick to using this: the narrow L-shaped frame needs to be pulled out from the bottom-left corner of the screen for maximum grip, not from the middle as most people would expect. The Air France PE suffers the same fate as the Air NZ Spaceseat. From an AUSBT comment on Facebook: I actually think it's a *very* good seat, it's just let down by lack of legroom the assigned pitch would have been fine for a conventional A380-style premium economy seat, but this seat simply needs more pitch. Still will be better than down back. There are 28 seats in a 2-3-2 layout . Business class takes pride of place at the front of Qantas' Boeing 787s with 42 seats spread across two distinct zones, offering every traveller a fully-flat bed and direct access to the aisle. The design is wonderful, but at 65 tall, I think I will have to give it a miss. Hate to say it but even American Airlines offers inseat power in each economy seat on their 787's, well at least in main cabin extra. Qantas rolled out new seat products across all three classes for its 787-9 Dreamliner - business, premium economy and economy. What a missed opportunity this is for QF and their beloved 789. Scoot simply taps into this same agreement and the same service. . Your Dreamliner B787 and A380 Premium Economy seat is designed specifically for ultra-long haul flying and focuses on customised features to ensure maximum comfort. Without a seat in front with footrest, do ones legs just dangle off the tilted seat if they dont reach the bulkhead? Seat pitch and width: 38"- 42" and 19.5 . Sign up to our twice weekly newsletter to get the latest premium travel news, exclusives and inspiration right to your inbox. The Qantas 787 reviews for Economy class are also mixed. Fixed shell seats are great for protecting your personal space but they trade this off with a limited recline within the shell making it tough to sleep. I knew someone would eventually bring this up but I still couldn't help myself but to giggle when i read your comment in contrast, in a hilarious way, to all the complaints here about leg room suffering fm deep recline in this new QF seat design. Resend one to yourself here. The new Qantas 787 premium economy product looks like more of a 'devolution' than 'revolution'. Usually, these seats immediately face a fixed wall, dividing the seats from something else in the cabin. Funny you say that, I've flown PE on Qantas and Cathay and found I couldn't get my legs in a comfortable position which hindered sleep. First up is the legroom: or to be more precise, the lack of legroom when the seat in front of you is reclined. Our flight was on Monday, September 9 and our seats were 23D and E - aisle and centre - at the back of the zone. This article is more proof how the QF 'Dreamliner' could be more correctly be called the 'Nightmareliner' (for all but the small number in business class.). Departure: 16:25 Arrival 06:40+1. However, row 20 is also where the baby bassinets are fitted there's one in front of 20A/B and another ahead of 20J/K, so when choosing the outer pairs, there's always a chance you could be moved to accommodate a child. Excellent article: very considered, and terrific photos. Penny pinching to say the least. Not me as the design trade offs are obvious and 38inches seat pitch was not revealed by QF only yesterday.the deep recline capability was kinda news though. " 20. For maximum legroom and space row 20: Located at the front of the cabin, these seats prove the roomiest thanks to the generous gap between them and the bulkhead wall in front. Avoid this aircraft in economy if at all possible. Already have an ET account? Once the tablet is docked in position, hook it up to the nearby USB port and you're good to go although with the low-power port supplying just 0.5A it will keep your tablet's battery stable than recharging it. For everybody else, there's no reason to choose yourself a centre ('E') seat when every other seat in the cabin is by a window or aisle. Non-bulkhead rows (row 21-23) measured 38 inches of pitch, while the bulkhead row 20 has significantly more knee room, but less room to stretch out your legs due to the bulkhead. The irony is that the Dreamliner has a much better premium economy seat but the implementation of that seat in the pitch assigned to it is where this falls down, IMHO. Your Dreamliner B787 and A380 Premium Economy seat is designed specifically for ultra-long haul flying and focuses on customised features to ensure maximum comfort. I've personally found PE not comfortable, once again that's just me, hence saying ironic that I'd prefer economy. Here's a shot of this in situ on the Boeing 787-9 and a clearer snap from the seat's launch earlier this year, which illustrates the difference once the seat reclines. Sincerely hope the A380 refit doesn't go the same way. economy for some extra space. Boeing 747-400 (744) Seats: 58 Business 270 Economy 36 Premium Economy. Airbus A380-800 - VH-OQB - "Hudson Fysh". Find out all about the Qantas Premium Economy experience. Parents may wish to enjoy the aisle seats themselves while assigning their child to the middle seat. Caon cannily built a convenient tablet-holder in front of the seatback screens, for passengers who prefer to BYO inflight video and movies, with sufficient size to hold even a 13-inch iPad Pro. Qantas can't even "afford" to do that for their Premium Economy product? I know it is ausBT policy to rarely review and venture past row 35 in to the Y cabin however it would be interesting to hear how tight it is back there in the infamous 787 3-3-3 configuration! Nup, not for me. Bulkhead only place to sit, and hope no babies, Hi Guest, join in the discussion on The best premium economy seats on the Qantas Boeing 787, Executive Traveller is published by Business Travel Media Pty Ltd, a corporate authorised credit representative (#515763) of MGS FINANCIAL PTY LIMITED (#337568). Bold claim? Duration: 14 hours 42 minutes. Forum; Mobile; FAQ; Contact Us; Site Map; Premium economy is a work in progress, and you may get caught up mid-transition. Best card for premium perks while traveling. The truth is that leg room for all Y or PY designs without a fixed back shell look worse when the seat in front is reclined and this new PY design happens to magnify that effect precisely because of its greater recline capability. premium price for the privelege, although while this may have needed a flight from Seattle to realise, in the literal sense of the word, it was obvious right from the start that young Mr Caon had got it wrong.Together with the comments add to the impression that PE is a class too many in the small aircraft which is the B787, and that JAL has done it right in regard to the aircraft it has configured for flights to/from Australia. removing lavs, mediocre food, using "enhancement" "revolutionary" "game breaking" ad nauseum making fools of us. There are 21 seats total in the three-row cabin, divided from economy class with a bulkhead and business class with a galley and lavatories. If youve forgotten your password, simply enter your email address How do designers sitting in QCC think they will get away with short changing passengers?? Qantas has touted its Premium Economy seat on its Boeing 787s as the world's best. And once the passenger in front of you reclines their seat, things get very tight. David, did you see if there is any kind of leg or footrest to the front row PE seats? But that's the point David and I were making, rather than setting the seat to flat we prefer setting it to a recliner position for sleep. The reason NOT to fly premium economy: wild inconsistency. Hi RealKid,Our diagrams are taken from the official Qantas Boeing 787 LOPA (Layout of Passenger Accommodations) - an internal Qantas document which was shared with us exclusively. Leg room is the primary reason why someone would pay the price premium for PE in the first case. Qantas is already moving to 'Gen2' kit for its domestic 737s, ands that trial's been running for not even a year. Hmm perhaps Qantas might revert back to 31" in Economy to make room for 40" in Premium Economy??? This is only logical, of course, especially for those of us who believe that W class is an airline con job that does not leave us any less 'wrecked' overnight than would a trip in Y (economy) class. The more surprising feature that's lacking is inflight wifi. The economy seats on the 787-9 measure 17.2 inches in width and 32 inches in pitch. I'm all for recline, but the implementation here looks dreadful - loss of leg room, and getting way more 'up close and personal' with the head of the person in front than I've seen before ! I agree, I like more of the recline than fully flat in Business. A flat wall replaces a window without the space of even a window surround or sill. Oooo that seat pitch looks like economy of a few decades ago. Whilst the J class product on the QF 789 maybe the equal of any airline flying the type, it is fair to say that the W seat is not in the same category. Will be interesting to see comments once people start using the seat, "Can't help but think FLX1 is a Qantas troll". All Economy seats on this aircraft have a foot rest net under seat ahead and winged headrests. What a fantastic and detailed review David. Like the A380, there is seatback in-flight entertainment but no wifi. VA 777 for example PE is set at 41, booking wise more bang for buck there. When reclined it could be the tightest PE on the market. But my point is comments like "I actually slept worse in the JQ J seat on the 788 than I normally do in the QF Y seat on the 333/332." Access to all AVOD system content thru a built-in screen @ every seat onboard 787 free of charge is soooo obviously not an excuse for the lack of inflight wifi by QF.. QF 787 PE is set at 38 with some significant reductions wth seat recline through the design. David, in photo 16 (and shown in photo 17 with your writing notebook), does that side space have something at the bottom of the seat to ensure that whatever you put there, stays there (without slipping down into the bowels of the seat, necessitating a call to an FA)? "look at the pics and review above, its clear cut.". This is not business class!! Its Bob I presume spoken by one who was on the delivery flight! Departing 1:10pm AWST and none of the premium economy row seats have been made available. Yet at odds with the double-dollop of USB ports is the single AC socket shared between each pair of seats or two sockets for the middle set of three seats. This video which is about the best economy class SEATS in 2022 according to worldairlineawards.com is the second in my new series of top ten classes in the t. Like others have said, people book premium Premium Economy Classic Flight Rewards on the Perth-Rome route. Login now. Ok, apart from the hammock thing it's no advance over something like the prev gen PE seating on EVA - Which at it's height had 40" pitch (reduced to 38 when they reconfigured the J cabin), same pivot-cradle style seat but executed better - with leg-rest, and seat dropped into it's own space when reclined, minimising the space encroachment on the passenger behind. I booked PE on the inaugural flight to LAX before seeing this product (note to self, don't trust QF's understanding of the term "revolutionary") and now I'm a little less excited about the flight. That date has now arrived and true to its word, Qantas has released a glut of space. Qantas Boeing 787 Seat Map - Updated 2023. Cathay Pacific. Already have an Executive Traveller account? Passengers in 'A' and 'K' seats are by the windows; those in 'B', 'D', 'F' and 'J' seats are by the aisles; while guests in 'E' seats are, sadly, stuck in the middle. Seat 9 is worse than a bad seat. Can 't say as I haven't flown in that BA product. The seat pitch which approximates as an indicator of legroom, being a measure of the distance between your seat back and that of the seat in front of you, representing the room that's "yours" during the flight is 38 inches. Wow what a nightmare, and that's 'Premium' Economy (at a premium price). Sadly, a few issues not all of them related to the seat itself keep it from reaching its full crowd-pleasing potential. No it just hasn't been mentioned in the article. Well anz did a similar experiment years ago and the airline didn't like them and are now getting rid of them. ANA's newest premium economy seats, found on board its Airbus A380s, Boeing 787-10s, and Boeing 777-300ER planes, have a roomy 38 inches of pitch, a leg rest that supports the calf, massive 15.6 . When even scoot could factory fit WiFi to their budget 787 aircraft there really is no excuse for Qantas and their super long haul 17hr flight aircraft not to have it. Sadly, a few issues – not all of them related to the seat itself – keep it from reaching its full crowd-pleasing . Just below the screen is a pocket for stowing your smartphone, reading glasses or other small bits of personal kit. Find the best seat wiht our Qantas Boeing 787-9 (789) seating chart. Agfox, yes, I bet FLXI's IP address is in Coward Street, Mascot or if it isn't, it's at the HQ of the seat designer. Please keep it real. Zaps I do it all the time (to DFW) and it is fine; better than economy which is the point. 1) Because many commentators here relentlessly regard SQ or 350 as an angel while QF or 787 as an evil. I am a big fan of Qantas and was very much looking forward to the new PE. One of the excellent airplanes in its possession is Boeing which managed to build a name in the Courses 104 View detail Preview site Virgin said this week that its new Airbus premium economy seats have a seatback screen size of 13.3 inches compared to 11.6 inches in economy, but not a patch on the 18.5 inches in business . I travelled in Y to LAX so here are a few quick points: Still a tight fit, didn't get pics along the lines you suggested (due to limited time during the walk-through pre-delivery, and then the premium economy cabin being near-full of sleeping media on the overnight leg of the delivery flight itself). Imagine being in economy for 17 hours. or "I sleep better in economy with no leg rest." By Chris C., December 22 2016. Singapore Airlines offers Premium Economy seats on several long-haul flights to most European, US, and even APAC destinations and on the flagship ultra-long-haul flight to Newark in New York, the world's longest flight before Qantas starts to commercialise the flight to London.. Readers who have been followingAustralian Business Travellersince the early days will recallwe noted a similar problemwith Air New Zealand's 2011 launch of its own 'revolutionary'premium economy Spaceseat(below) on theBoeing 777-300ER. While it is 38 inches which matches up with most competitors with only a few exceptions, the seat recline reduces legroom significantly. Great seats, wide spacious cabin in 2 3 2 config. Published on January 31, 2017. The over-sized winged headrest has plenty of vertical adjustment to suit passengers of almost any height, and a thick custom pillow more like a bolster in some ways slides over the headrest for added comfort (especially when it's nap-time), an arrangement which also prevents the pillow from sliding around and slipping down behind your back. Best card for premium perks while traveling. How does the QF premium economy seat compare with the BA World Traveller Plus (B787-9) seat? FLX sorry Im not contradicting myself, further reductions in recline I was referring from the article when the seat in FRONT is RECLINED the seat behind space is further reduced due to the design, look at the pics and review above, its clear cut. Really interesting how another review l recently read, gave PE a glowing report - however that reviewer travelled as a guest of QF. San Francisco, CA (SFO) - Melbourne, VIC (MEL) Wednesday, January 30, 2019. Economy seats are narrower (by 0.76 centimetres) than those on Qantas' larger international planes, but I couldn't tell. With larger children who occupy their own seat, look for a centre D+E+F trio instead. Signing up with Executive Traveller only takes a second and lets you Check and compare which airlines provide the best premium economy cabin rated by travelers in the global airline passenger satisfaction survey. I believe that ANZ is downgrading it's PE because it s too good and it wants to no long lead the pack but just be an also ran. Economy class seats are reasonably comfortable, especially if you're flying on the Qantas B787 economy class, with its above-average 32-inch seat pitch and a six-inch recline. Premium Economy is supposed to be a lot better than economy, nobody here is asking for business class at PE prices, but adequate legroom is an essential part of the PE product offering and this seat or rather the pitch assigned to it by Qantas doesn't deliver. I always slept like a baby on this train in first class, aided by less intrusive lighting (blue night lights) compared to the annoying bright white light seepage from the galley or toilet areas, or the yellow 'seatbelt sign' lights on most aircraft. The A380 can carry up to 853 . Good article. Air New Zealand . PER-LHR non-stop like this? Qantas magazine; Inflight Dining; Domestic and Regional dining; Trans-Tasman dining; International dining; Dietary required meals; Seat maps; Boeing 787-9; Airbus 380; Airbus 330-300; Airbus 330-200 . interact with our community. September 15, 2019. QF31 - Sydney to London via Singapore (SYD-SIN-LHR) 9 June 2009. Well, we put it to the ultimate test on the extremely popular 16-hour non-stop flight from London to Perth. Quite disappointing. Looks uncomfortable alright, that legroom is inadequate I struggle to think how they can call this premium economy, more like modified economy. 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