what happened to pete briscoe

So disappointed in ECFA. Jill They wont produce any vanilla beans. The vanilla bean is incredibly hard to harvest. I mean, its an accurate criticism of people within the church. But the thing that was so shocking to me, is that Bill Hy Hybels was the first pastor I had ever seen be so vulnerable from the pulpit. Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? He currently leads a multi-faceted media ministry called Telling the Truth which he shares with his parents Stuart and Jill Briscoe. Vanilla orchids are actually pollinated by hand in most places. They made a lot of friends. Briscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. Fellowship, Church family, Community. And so I hope your listeners understand what I mean, when I say this, thats how good God is that he can use people who are even morally bankrupt, to bring people to himself. And the thing that is astonishing to me, you used the issue of emotional vulnerability is that, you know, a lot of times our strengths are our weaknesses. To us, he was Stu, Dad and Poppa and we already miss him achingly." Pete grew up in a home with intelligent and committed parents: both Glad that Jesus is still our anchor! And this is whats so difficult. WebBriscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. And if you think its not, you know, go and look in your church building right now, if youre quarantined under COVID, or youre not gathering. Fortunately, we have not had so much as one complaint about any one of our pastors or staff members. Mitch has seen church governance from both the inside and the outside. But you had said you had gotten this manual and it was about, you know, basically how to be an elder and how to lead. Thank you for joining us in seeing to it that no one misses the grace of God. Your browser does not support JavaScript. To us, he was Stu, Dad and Poppa and we already miss him achingly." (See page 54 and following) And you have to, there must be assiduous accountability going on in the life of someone who has the big radio show has the big platform, his platform at conferences and large organizations, because the temptations are greater. Like if you go back and you actually read his books line-on-line, there are some things in there in those books where you go, For a pastor, that should be unacceptable. But he was attenuating his church culture and culture at large to him in his behavior. He even cites a conversation with Darrell Bock, a member who disagrees with the elders but who also says it is not an issue worth dividing over. And so when I looked at that in the context of James MacDonald going, you know what, thats the type of accountability that man needed and was denied. Im wary of the theatrical, evangelical stars that are so prevalent now. It manifested even at the IT level at the church. It was like trying to fit a battleship through a set of French doors. They had these Global Leadership Summits. Id like to share a few things as we navigate this loss together. You know, Willow creeks pastors family members benefit from the Penumbra of Willow Creek and its just sheer size within evangelicalism. These are people that are in your country club. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. Yes, I would view it far differently today. He was like one of these, I think until Scot decided to speak up, it was, Willow had credulity to say, These are people outside our tribe who are criticizing us. Why did so many look the other way for so long? What I saw happen at Willow is, the board as a unit was willing to dissemble in the amount necessary to preserve the organization. Then, I did what all good Christian college students did at that time I acquired a boot-leg copy of the drama and listened to it several times on my own. Yep, thats rooted in pride. Their board operated by unanimity as well. And so I do think its a healthy thing when youre afraid of doing wrong, because it will be brought up and you will be held accountable. We were talking a little bit about the elder board. About Stuart and Jill Briscoe Hes also the chairman of the elder board and his own church, Bent Tree Fellowship. He represented two women involved in the sex abuse scandal involving Bill Hybels. How did that all happen? Can you imagine how many books that sold her? But I guess this is the question so many are asking is, Can anybody be in those kind of jobs with the kind of responsibility that is put on one human, one person to lead thousands of people? And so many looking to him for vision for leadership for everything. And this is a huge problem in the Evangelical Church in the southern baptist church, I mean, just absolutely massive problem where so often the predators covered up instead of brought to justice. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. Hi. He currently leads a multi-faceted media ministry called Telling the Truth which he shares with his parents Stuart and Jill Briscoe. that keeps the honest person honest. Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? Right? But I have to say that in the middle of dealing with a lot of tall weeds and bugs, God has also given me some flowers and fruit trees to enjoy. So you can go to Amazon and enter in Boz Tchividjian and his book will pop up but you need to know what youre looking for because people who are sexual predators, they have an acuity for blending into society in ways that they dont stand out like this is not like, you know, the sexual predator in your church is not some, you know, grease ball sitting outside your kids ministry just kind of looking for a way to get at, like, thats our common image of what a sexual predator is. Or what is the church think about Calvinism? something along those lines. John and Nancy Ortberg had been at Willow Creek as pastors. They had so many churches, thousands of churches coming on board and being a part of those. Thats what he was. In fact, back in the late 80s, early 90s, we went to Willow Creek and we had a wonderful experience. This is Chicago Tribune. This is people who are dissillusioned, who wanted big jobs at Willow and didnt get them. But when Scot, the the intra tribal dissenter steps up and says, This is wrong, things shifted. Gifted with wisdom, discernment, and a bit of English humor, the Briscoe's bring God's Word to life. This person or these people were hurt as a result, you have a pride problem. I attended Willow for seven years. Everyone I knew from childhoodparents, grandparents, pastors, Sunday School teacherswas upright and honest. That is a very fair question. Thats a rhetorical question. Happened so often, I quit altogether. It is simply to feed ourselves. I am thrilled to be here. And Ive been a critic of megachurch multi-site model. It is a collection of people that we are to care for. And theres an element to which a church like Willow Creek was a global church, right? Amen. Guest Bios Show Transcript Many times, those who have experienced spiritual abuse are retraumatized when they try to speak about whats happened. Pete has offered to Can I talk about Scot McKnight for a second? And he realized that he had missed an opportunity to share Christs love with this person, and he didnt even feel worthy to give this message tonight, you know, and he got teared up and, and Im watching this, you know, as a 20, early 20 something right? WebIt is with heavy hearts that the Elders of Bent Tree announce that Pete Briscoe has submitted his resignation as Senior Pastor. He now coaches Pete Briscoe | Brookfield WI. Why is it that nobody outside a very small group of women who had no power, really no position, why didnt others come to their rescue? The church is nondenominational and has woman pastors and elders. In context, I think my meaning becomes clear as I say soon after, agreeing with Mitchs assessment that unanimity is bad: Absolutely horrible. I mean, that is just huge. I cant vouch for all the information because I havent researched it myself. And Willow lost the battle of PR on social media. Multiple services, being able to do it on cue, proves Hybels theatrical abilitiesI look back and feel sick, given all the details we now know from behind the scenes. However, whenever he would do that quavering voice, etc., I would wonder how he could do that for all three identical services? I think the load needs to be shared. And I can only imagine what the economic forces are behind the scenes for that, but it really disappoints me, that that hasnt happened. I was blown away. And that needs to be an elder in the church really any size, you need to say, Look, I see what youre doing this is wrong. And when the person makes excuses or says, You know, this is a misunderstanding, I didnt mean to, you know, message that kid inappropriately online, or I didnt mean to Invite them to go do something by ourselves out of, you know, trying to do something bad. All the times something didnt seem right. I think one of the ways that Willow tried to reckon with the situation was to permit Bill Hybels to retire from his role at the church. :), I would strongly urge you to research Voice of the Martyrs. I hear you say that and I believe in accountability really strongly. I dont know. That nonprofit corporation and its bank accounts, thats not what the biblical church is. Like so many of you, I love Pete. WebPete Briscoe, Stuart and Jills youngest son, was a key contributor to the ministrys teaching team from 2003 to 2021. Let the Briscoes help you experience Life in all its fullness! And thats not what this is about. Today were talking with Pete Briscoe, who served as the senior pastor for nearly three decades at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, Texas, and now consults with and coaches pastors. And its not something you can control like traditional mainstream media. Also I want to let you know that Judson University is planning to resume in person classes this fall for traditional transfer and adult students and its still not too late to apply. Ive even friended a few. In fact, I know some of them. And really, I came back to the Lord at Willow and He used that church to help me reestablish my relationship with Him and with His church. Please note, our website requires JavaScript to be supported. God is doing a new work both in the lives of the Briscoe's and in the life of Bent Tree. If they have the character to lead the accountability will help keep them you know, keep them honest, so to speak, you know, its kind of like when you put a bike lock on your bike that. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. and I found these people in those imperfect churches! Its not okay. The Elder Board has accepted Petes decision, and his resignation is effective March 31, 2019. So, thanks for taking the time and you know, anybody whos willing to take a few minutes out of their vacation for a podcast, I just really appreciate it. And this is one of the I think exciting things. So Scot, its like the scene in The Avengers when Iron Man just kind of drops out of the sky. And that that was something that taught you an awful lot about how elder board should deal with sexual impropriety or sexual abuse within their own walls. Briscoe It involves a level of compartmentalization that is truly stunning. I Do you understand what Im saying? Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? I think that they were scared of what Ill call the Christian Industrial Complex that had risen up around Bill, the economic consequences of speaking out on a topic of high consequence. Its M-I-L-G-R-A-M the Milgram experiment, but basically American researchers were trying to figure out after World War II, why so many in German society were willing to go along with the Nazis or go along with their leadership, do incalculably horrible things to people. Can you imagine what that does for book sales to be on stage at the Global Leadership Summit among people all over the world and touted as an expert in something? Well, I want to turn our discussion to what youve experienced at your own church, which is a multi-site mega church there in the Dallas Fort Worth area, because those are things where youve been able to apply some of these lessons that youve learned from watching the negative example maybe of Willow Creek, youve learned an awful lot from going through crisis at your own church. Nobody who is an elder at a church should have any aspect of their identity wrapped up in either the role of being an elder or in the success or failure of the organization. Very few. And yet, they lost the PR battle, which is unbelievable. Mike is a dear friend and Im sad this day has come. That is not a matter of policy. I dont think that he caused the elder board to resign. Its scripturally rooted. A man who "dedicated his life to sharing Gods Word with the world" has died at the age of 91. https://www.billionbibles.com/voice-of-the-martyrs.html. The news of Petes resignation landed heavy on my heart. You have to have unity among your vocational staff at the church about, you know, key issues like how do we treat other people? I would probably have been among those who defended Bill saying, He couldnt have done these things; Hes too strong of a Christian leader. I see this culture as similar to the Corinthian church with the man who was involved with his fathers wife. Its really pride. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. Yeah, that is super dangerous. There was another documented case where he had oral sex with his assistant back in the 90s at WC. Nobody has said they had intercourse with Bill. In our church, we have a no tolerance policy. Right. He even cites a conversation with Darrell Bock, a member who disagrees with the elders but who also says it is not an issue worth dividing over. You have your identity rooted in something other than Christ, the centrality of Christ. With distinctly different teaching styles, you'll be moved by the emotional appeal of Jill and the compelling logic of Stuart, as they boldly proclaim God's sovereignty, grace, and love. I dont agree with a lot of his views, but he said something and it is true, we need to have, you know, church leader needs to have two voices, one for gathering the sheep and one for scaring away wolves. And we need to start on the work of reconciliation and repentance now. And you have two or three board members who go, I dont think so, they did nothing. The small tape recording process drew the attention of many people who were eager for a copy of the teaching they heard at church to share with friends and neighbors. I think there was a culture of pride at Willow that basically said, We are the elite of the Christian world. But at 22, I completely bought it. Yes, I totally agree. Petes teaching and emphasis on the sufficiency of Christ leaves an indelible mark on so many of our souls. Below is a link to a PDF of the article World Magazine did on a sex abuse scandal involving VOM. I did live it. WebPete Briscoe answers that question by pointing us to Paul as the perfect example of one who speaks with tender boldness. WebPete Briscoe is a podcaster and evangelical pastor. If you have six members of the Board of eight, lets just say its eight or 10. And some of it also involved a culture that was willing to cover for wrongdoing. As a lawyer whos represented some of Bill Hybels victims Mitch Little has seen a side of Willow Creek that few others have. WebLearn More About Pete Today - Pete Briscoe God loves you to distraction, There is nothing you can do to make Him love them more or less, And, that Life with this Lover God is rich beyond description, regardless of your performance. Its something like Child Protection Policies. But essentially, it was the board being asked to deal with matters of policy and then all matters of implementation really get left to the vocational staff in the church. Pete is the son of Jill and Stuart Briscoe. At one point, the elder board at Willow became what people call a policy governance board. He even cites a conversation with Darrell Bock, a member who disagrees with the elders but who also says it is not an issue worth dividing over. Serving in the role of elder is a huge responsibility. Theyve got a little bit of the guide part. Its a serious analog for what happened at Willow. Stuart Briscoe died on August 3 "of natural causes unexpectedly" according to a tweet from his son, Pete Briscoe. Jill and Stuart came to the States from England. So glad to see you feature Mitch Little. Its biblical. What is it that causes so many people who know better, to look the other way and allow evil to prosper? I think, as believers, we should be standing for truth, we should not look the other way. And I still havent been able to get her to visit with me. (etc. When you say the IT department, its my understanding you came into some information about emails getting destroyed. To me, this was one of the beautiful God moves about the entire situation. I encourage you to start praying again and trust God to open doors for you in godly and meaningful fellowship. So thanks again. Well, again, Joining me today is Mitch Little a partner with Scheef & Stone in Frisco, Texas. I want to thank Pete too for advocating for women participating fully in leadership and for Libby modeling what it means to be a true helper (ezer kenegdo). So grateful for those who did and Scot McKnight who came out with a just a powerful, I remember when his blog hit and he said, Every elder has to resign. And within what, wasnt it a week, all of them resigned. So Mitch, thank you so much for taking the time to join me today. Yeah, yeah, I think I think thats a good word to Julie. And I remember you saying once that you had gotten a manual, I think it was from the ECFA, and boy, we could talk about them. You feel that they have to have more of a governance more of a hands on role than a lot of them do. Churches sometimes need advocates outside their system. Youre absolutely right. It is not a program is not a set of services. 1 talking about this. If anything has a whiff of impropriety, we would jump on it immediately. Pete has offered to But this is the beauty of I think whats arisen is an independent media. And thats what, thats what you end up protecting right? We are egalitarian and sophisticated, and we are Gods chosen church to show how ministry is supposed to be done. I heard an elder once describe his role as a glorified sanitation engineer. The Elder Board has accepted Petes decision, and his resignation is effective March 31, 2019. Im against too many lawyers, and I think Im in a position to critique this. WebBriscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. For more information just go to JudsonU.edu. WebIt is with heavy hearts that the Elders of Bent Tree announce that Pete Briscoe has submitted his resignation as Senior Pastor. Much has been written on establishing criteria for board member selection. Stuart and Jill Briscoe have always had a passion for teaching God's Word and speaking Truth into people's hearts and moving them toward God. Briscoe I think ultimately, we are still kind of under the inertia of a culture that was fomented by Pete Briscoe, which was a culture of goodness, a culture of grace and its still carrying forward under that momentum. Literally thousands of people have come to know Jesus under Bill Hybels teaching and yet, he was morally bankrupt at the same time. He has been married to Jill for more than 59 years and has three children and 13 grandchildren. And its designed to be acretive, right that they gain strength over time. He is with us today to talk about growing communication skills to improve preaching as well as how we can find deeper fulfillment in our work and lives. Well, and thanks so much for listening to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. But heres what happened when Scot criticized them publicly. My personal belief, not speaking on behalf of anyone else, my personal belief is that that structure is designed to fail, because elders cant elder in that structure. So to some extent, we all have a measure of hypocrisy. But when we look at it from some practical ways that God used people to undo this, explain what you see as being the key forces. etc. Manipulative theatrics. At the same time, hes writing a book and writing articles for Christianity Today about marriage purity. 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