Howdy Justin,Thanks in advance for reading and advice. I've heard they can get up to $1000 for the metals in Toyota cats. I have 83,938 miles on my car. On the way home from work it had some hesitation that at first I thought was caused by me not shifting correctly however a few miles down the freeway while going 75 the car started losing power and surging. Short Term Fuel Trim in normal ranges during driving; however at idle hot spikes from -13.3 to +29.7 (normal ranges +/-10) The why is learned data that has been lost typically with light of parameters, coolant temperature and maybe engine repairs that make changes in Combustion temperature such as replacing leaking head gaskets. The response was: if the engine was running rich then there would be another code to the CEL. exhaust cover '06my. However, my cruise control isnt working. Subaru's number for this recall is TKC-20. You can try higher octane fuel and harder driving to build up Exhaust Temperature. So the information I pasted above from your post. The industry or the market place rather does not allow for scientifically approaching the issue with a prove good or prove failed circumstance, instead its not an exact science unless you have the ability or the inclination to go one or several steps further in your diagnoses. Another more slightly annoying feature Subaru owners discover about the exhaust system on their vehicles are heat shield rattles. He wasnt sure why the check engine light was coming on and suggested I contact subaru. Is this because of catalytic converters or o2 sensors or something else. Model Year Carline Affected Production Dates 2015-2016 Legacy 12/16/2013 9/30/2015 2016-2016 Outback 12/9/2013 9/30/2015 We were still in contact with the seller and he came and checked it out and code P0420 came up, but he said that it was nothing to be worried about and turned the light off. I guess Ill look into testing the O2 sensors first. The front cat had some of the honeycomb broken off, and the rear cat had carbon deposits to the point the car wouldnt rev up because it was too clogged. I got everything fixed and filled up with the best premium. Because it seems to only show up during the Colder days, Id say its still has some life left, and if it was here thats what we would suggest. Recall date. Thats the place to start. its taken care of and should last a long time. I also have a k&n drop in air filter too. EXHAUST & MUFFLER '04MY-'05MY. oops again. Is that accurate and if it is a new ECM should I ask if it has been calibrated? That can have an affect as well. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. I though great! Hi Justin, WebIf you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). Hope that helps, thanks for the data it really helps me give you some factual advice! All I want to do is get through the state of CT emissions test! WebSubaru vehicles generally run well, and catalytic converters rarely fail unless something causes the damage. Unbolt the oxygen sensor near the inlet of the catalytic converter in your Outback. And ever since that repair, from time to time the CEL comes on and the cruise light blinks. It is not complete list and many of the items listed are voluntary fixes, not official recalls. Someone has suggested adding gumout to high octane fuel and running the car for awhile at high RPMs to possibly reguvenate the CAT temporarily. In other words my engine was running hot for the first 20,000 miles or so. Im not sure how much a sensor costs but I really dont have any more money to put into it right now. Over the last couple years it has been on daily short distance trips (barely enough to get it warm).Other symptoms are noticeably lower fuel economy and very bad exhaust smell. Tuesday, I took the car on a long trip, over 300 miles and after restarting the car 100 miles into the the trip, the light was off and did not come on. Sorry for the confusion regarding Subaru vs. your independent shop. My car too has the p0420 code. The light stayed off for a week or two but then came back on and now never stays off for long even when I have the code cleared. There is 7166 miles on this allegedly new catalytic converter. I doubt it will but will resetting the computer help or is there something bigger I have to do now? The car was originally imported from NY and has been in Ontario since (close to 135,000km/84000miles). 370 people reported this problem 140 comments Subaru Forester Vehicles With This You will need to research that on your own, as the complexity of how to do it, plus what to do with the cleaner when your done is something I cant reasonably comment on. The only way to cut down on this is to put more precious metal in the Catalyst which would greatly raise the price. Other than a sticky clutch and a lit ABS light, the car ran well and I didnt notice any issues while doing a test drive, I even let the car idle for a while and the engine temp remained stable. Prior to I put cleaner is a full take of gas when I bought the car, still running in that same tank of gas with cleaner. Subaru has determined that the efficiency of your vehicles front catalytic converter may degrade over time. Should I switch to 89 octane? What I am trying to explain to you is that just because a part was replaced in the past does not mean that its ok today. Any unburnt fuel in the engine that goes into the exhaust system will ignite in the catalytic converter. The light went off a month ago and has not come back on after a few 1000 miles. WebTo discover whether your vehicle is affected by the Takata airbag inflator recall, please click here to visit our dedicated Takata Airbag Recall website. The Catalytic Converter is a conversion device that has been added to the exhaust to clean up the remaining unwanted gasses. Subaru Forester 2009, Catalytic Converter and Pipe Assembly by Davico. I am always vigilant about tightening the gas cap for several clicks. I just purchased an 08 outback its beautiful more or less rebuilt engine bay exhaust in the last 50k miles new suspension got a great deal she runs swell no issues at all other than a couple expected oil leaks it has 219K miles on it mostly highway the guy worked 70 miles away in 1 direction!!!! Your article is the most helpful that I have found thus far. Any advice as I go chat with them and likely reach for my wallet? My car is a 2.5 06 Outback with 85,000 miles. the car has 121K on it. been maintained. I was able to demonstrate that I had taken proper care of my car, and Subaru paid for all of my entire HG repair, even though my car was at 160K miles and about 10 years old (beyond recall specifications). After dumping money into these repairs, last thing I want to find is that I now need more expensive repairs. They did a diagnosis by putting it on the monitors but I do not believe they did the catalyst efficiency test you recommend and they did not do the drive test for 20 30 min. Ammonia (NH 3) odor may also indicate poor catalyst function. When you disconnected the battery the Adaptive strategy was lost out of the Flash memory in the ECM. He took it in to the Subaru dealer and they say it is a p0240 code and it needs a new catalytic converter at a cost of $1800. Keep the fluids in good shape and that is the # 1 thing you can do to prolong the head gasket life. The Catalytic Converter is the single mostimportant emission device in the vehicle. So I had both front bearings replaced. Best Regards at Subarus expense) but Im not so sure that its really necessary. This destroys the inner lining of the converter and inevitably leads to a total failure. I got the p0420. It is important to verify catalytic converter lightoff prior to determining if a catalytic converter has failed. exhaust cover '06my. Are there any symptoms to watch for h.g. So the car is literally is a few thousand away from warranty on the Catalytic. Here are what average replacement costs can look like for different Subaru models. SOA has already declined my warranty on the cat even though my warranty specifically reads PZEV warranty on 150,000 miles that are distributed to NY, and say that its not longer warranted since I am registered in Canada. Suffering the same problem with the P0420 code. They are also recommending a reflash of the ECU ($95). Also the HG failure could have degraded the Catalyst as well, but the most common reason they fail is they get all choked up with carbon and crud and no longer reach the light off point. Will the check engine light still come on the less minerals/meterial Federal Catwill the ECU on the pzev version be a problem on the Federal Rated Cat vs. the California one? Exhaust. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. There was some sort of a condition that actually needed to be diagnosed and driving it like that did not do the Catalyst any favors. Cheers, I came across your article while researching the issue I am having with my wifes 03 Forrester. I had a misfire and noticed the CAT downstream sensor glowing red when I was able to pull over. If your car complies, Subaru will pay part or all of the cost of a head gasket repair. vapor, nitrogen, and oxygen before the exhaust is expelled into the. Anyone heard of this? Thought myself a genius! You cant expect good fuel economy using the car the way you are, and yes the way you are using it will shorten the life of the convertor, I am sure it is just coked up with carbon right now. There is special intake type cleaner you want to use. Hello, very informative site thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and answer questions. Removing the catalytic converter almost always leads to better engine performance in older vehicles. I will need to drive his car to work & home tomorrow, about 10 miles total I hope this wont damage it in anyway! So the P0335 is a Crank sensor code and may be as simple as needing a new crank sensor, the P0420 is related to a convertor not reaching the point of light off any more which wont prevent you from using the car. Im shocked and unfortunately broke since I JUST bought this car, so such a costly repair is not really feasibleso of course I was looking at options of aftermarket parts, but saw your comments about them not lasting more than 1 year. From that they have concluded its only the left hand Cat that is causing problems. Ive just bought a used 2009 Subaru Impreza 2.5i Just wondering if youve worked through a similar problem where sensor values seem normal but have been spiking? Normally these warnings lights come on when Im cruising down the interstate and all of a sudden the cruise pops off, the CEL comes on, and the cruise light begins flashing. Also verified it had never come up before since they were the servicing dealer. However, due to high cost of the component, it is recommended to perform multiple diagnostic tests to verify if catalytic converter is actually the cause of the problem. Service rep stated that in some instances, the attached heat shield cannot be removed (due to rust) and needs to be replaced (which could require later revisit). What can I check next? I have her note book of every repair and maintenence item recorded with all the receipts. That should be a P0420 code: cat inefficiency bank one. Also, Im looking at replacement cats online and I see on some places that theres a rear cat, other places it just shows a front cat that connects with the exhause manifold, and in other places theres what they call direct fit replacements where it looks like a rear and front cat but only the midsection (not up to manifold). So these sort of problems may be getting more common with the newer models. Service rep stated that in some instances, the attached heat shield cannot be removed (due to rust) and needs to be replaced (which could require later revisit). Cannot find any reference. I bought it used so, I have no reference to what may or may not have gone on with for the previous owner. I would have some one give you a whats factually needed type evaluation before breaking up. That was early June of 2016. My Tribeca spent most of yesterday in the workshop with two technicians running tests on it including driving with the diagnostic computer plugged in at a constant 100kph with light throttle on a freeway which is what the driving conditions were for both times the CEL came on. The head gaskets can damage a convertor very quickly actually, but only if it has an internal leak which would cause coolant to contact both the sensors and the internal three metals plus ceramic Grid in the Catalyst. Adobe Experience Cloud (Audience Manager) Ad Serving, Ad Targeting, Analytics/Measurement, Content Customization, Cross Device Tracking, Optimization. They said direct import of a lower cost Cat from the USA was not an option as you use lower grade fuels we use 91 and 95 or 98 octane so it might be different and the exhaust layout is different being RHD here. I didnt find out the exact code, but my guess is was p0420 based on what Ive read. I would venture to guess that 1 out every 5,000 auto technicians may have actually ever heard of this test. This commonly happens due to a bad upstream oxygen sensor, but can also happen due to a bad MAF sensor or worn spark plugs. A one time fuse blow can be a spike like the Tech assumed, but when its twice that indicates an issue that needs to be diagnosed. He looked at the sensors and thought the crank shaft sensor was loose but the code came back. Does this help determine if its the cat or something less expensive to fix (rear O2 sensor)? And the HGs are leaking. I did Buy it used about 16 months ago at only 80,000 Kms. I have a 2005 Subaru Legacy Wagon Limited and I get code P0420. Subaru's number for this recall is TKC-20. This same issue may cause the car to fail the State Smog Test if one is required. All Wheel Drive Auto, LLC and its staff are not affiliated with Subaru of America. Kind regards, and thanks again! replaced the upstream air/fuel sensor, and the same thing happened. After this switch the check engine light disappeared. I cant comment on what you should expect to pay other than at my shop, we charge $96.00 to perform a Catalyst function test in conjunction with graphing data from the 02 sensors. If you dont have any good advice I have a 2000 subaru outback for sale. Driving at a high speed. This direct-fit catalytic converter by Davico will be a great solution to replace your failed or damaged catalytic converter. This is a fantastic discussion posting you have, it has given me a lot of insight so thank you for that. I dont dispute that the catalytic converter probably needs replaced. If the cat is tested and fails the test than it needs to be replaced, if how ever it reaches light off and still sets the code maybe its a candidate for the re programming as a first step. Its been about 5 days now and I havent seen the light anymore. The car is now on its 5th cat. A fuel mixture that is too rich, i.e. It can run into problems over the normal life of the vehicle, and is often accompanied by OBDII code P0420. Have a safety problem? And yet the first couple times I checked it when all this started happening, it DID seem loose! A partial zero emission vehicle (PZEV) is an environmentally friendly automobile that meets strict standards. With the tool connected, turn on the ignition. Is this indicating it is the cat conv at engine end that is reading below threshold.? Ive got a 2008 Outback that had a new engine block put in at 77k because the dealership snapped the head bolts off when trying to replace a cracked head gasket. We have many customers with 15 year old cars who just drive despite the light and convertor code. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); 2023 All Wheel Drive Auto LLC. Another guy from Canada. I need to know what I should do first. brakes work ok when applied normally. You really just need to research this out in your part of town. Prior to that, he managed two different restaurants for over 15 years. Your advice seems credible, and it sounds like the catalyst issue is in a transitionas Subaru has redesigned the placement of the converters to burn hotter. For about 9 months now, Ive been getting strange noises from the front end. This same issue may cause the car to fail the State Smog Test if one is required. My mechanic is telling me that both O2 sensors are operational which leaves him to believe that its the front Cat. Its possible after some spirited driving the Catalyst function could improve and light goes out, but under stand its a warning of things to come. CEL has been off for about 2 weeks but came back on last night (no driveability problems). Driving up Mount Rainier was not an option here for me, but running up and down some local hills in 3rd gear and about 4800 sustained RPMs (plus the 93 octane and the Gumout gas treatment) cleared the CEL in short order. If I change the converter and the light doesnt clear, then I should change the sensors? Also the Warranty is 8 years 80k on a converter are you over that mileage? There is no change in the performance. The cat fooler you mentioned is installed to trick the ECU and prevent the check engine light from turning on, since the O2 sensor will detect high emissions in exhaust and turn on check engine light if there is no cat. code of P0420. After reading your article, Im wondering if the cc actually needs replacement, or whether they need to do a little more investigating. My son is an auto tech, and scanned to find the dreaded P0240 code. i have two light on dash vehicle dynamics control warning light and a emissions control unit malfunction engine control system light on dash. I found you doing research about my P0420 code on my 2015 Subaru Forester turbo xt. Thank You. I apologize for all the questions, especially without having all the proper information to give you to make a definite decision. FCFE2. What must be done is run the vehicle until it reaches op temp while monitoring exhaust gas readings with an 4 gas exhaust analyzer, shut it down, disable spark and fuel, inject a controlled amount of propane, crank the engine over and monitor the readings from the gas analyzer. Full Diagram #44102B EXHAUST. Up until now my Subaru has been a dream. BTW, there was no link in your reply. Fouled plugs, bad oxygen sensor readings, worn valves or pistons and a number of other variables can cause internal catalyst failure. Youre doing a great service to the Subaru owner community. Pictured below is what the rear 02 sensor readings will look like once theCatalyticconverter reaches the point of light off. There is 7166 miles on this allegedly new catalytic converter. Thanks for your reply Justin. What do you think? Is it possible the aftermarket muffler is leaking ? 370 people reported this problem 140 comments Subaru Forester Vehicles With This A partial zero emission vehicle (PZEV) is an environmentally friendly automobile that meets strict standards. But just before the lights went on the first time I had filled the tank and added STP engine cleaner additive, which I had never used before. If you are not able to locate one, than that is most likely ruled out as a possibility. The engine will die if I dont put it in neutral and give it gas.Any ideas on what is going on? Anything else I can do before I bring it back to the dealer? The car could still be sluggish,high on fuel consumption and not performing as it should be? It is a 2010 Forester none turbo. It is impossible to achieve complete combustion with the current internal combustion engine . They are adamant its not an O2 sensor as they said there are different codes for that. We had the headgasket done a month before the code appeared. WebShop 2022 Subaru Outback Base Catalytic Converter (Front). Tightened cap againlight went off after three short trips. I love the car, but the head gaskets were leaking. Thanks in advance for any advice you care to give. A clogged catalytic converter essentially "suffocates" the engine, preventing it from "exhaling" the exhaust. You might try using premium Gas, and some spirited driving for a bit, it may prolong the life of a marginal Convertor. There is a more accurate way to check if the catalytic converter is clogged in your Subaru Outback. hey justi, we have a 2007 legacy with 180000, we were driving home and the car felt like it was holding back and wouldnt get up past 40mph and made growl type noise at passenger side airbox, the engine sounds perfect just no power dealership replace mas sensor and tol me it was fixed went to drive home didnt make it out of lot, whats your opinion? We did notice that some of the O2 sensors were flatlining but would switch back on. Should I have the cat replaced since its still in warranty? Its a 2008 subaru legacy 2.5i limited with 99800 miles. Thats the only next step. a Technician carried out a diagnostic procedure as per workshop manual checked resistance between relay and connectors which led to finding a blown fuse.20A Green. Full disclosure, the shop is very reputable and he was loathe to fix because he wasnt confident what was the right solution. Hi Justin, Any chance you have that other article around? Thanks for the info. Dealer reports teh Engine light went on today due to P0420 code. He was able to get a wrench on the hose clamp to tighten it down. I cant believe you are still answering questions about this code, thanks! Does this help determine if its the cat or something less expensive to fix. Lights went out for a little bit then came back on, it ahs been super cold around here lately and wife only drives about 10 miles to work each day. I cant think of any other I would rather be in if I was ever in a Head on accident or out in the snow. This one is a 2008 and just over two weeks ago was at a subaru dealer in St. Louis to replace the left or right front axle. They stated the head gasket was leading and it needed a new cv boot. THANKS. Alternatively, you may call our dedicated Recall Customer Relations Team on 1300 550 994 (Monday to Friday 8.30am 5.00pm AEST. I only wish you were in New England instead of Seattle. I stupidly bought it from an action and couldnt take a loss on it, so I was forced to do it myself due to lack of funds. Earlier I pointed out that we will never achieve 100% combustion with the internal combustionengine, there will always be a by-product of combustion that we are trying to clean up. After driving the vehicle hard for a bit it may go away, but you most likely had a on its way out Catalyst and now that the ECM is merely looking at pass fail data in a narrow way its easy to spot the issue. I dont want to replace the c.converter if it isnt broken. In addition to the vehicle make, model, and engine type, you usually also have to type in the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). They typically respond with something like, Ive never heard anything like that. The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. WebVehicle Recalls. Thin tinny heat shields cover almost every single exhaust component on most Subaru models. Since some OBD codes are manufacturer-specific, the scanner will be able to give you more accurate information if you enter more details about your Outback. You make an interesting point, its the cost for cleaner air and will only get worse newer cars have more Catalysts. This is certainly going to affect my thinking when it comes to possibly purchasing a used car in the future. I know thats confusing at times but Welcome to the US government. Subaru Forester 2009, Catalytic Converter and Pipe Assembly by Davico. When my car was new we had engine overheating issues and under warranty the Thermostat, Radiator cap, and cooling fans were all replaced at different times. It may very well be that the issue is a weak convertor that is being affected by the colder temperatures only. 5)**What is the likelihood of an actual meltdown? This same issue may cause the car to fail the State Smog Test if one is required. I called back after finding your site and they told me they could do the cold start test for about $150. I have filled the tank up with 93, and added a bottle of chevron techron. He said it often is the sensors or an exhaust leak but these seemed to be operating fine and there was no exhaust leak evident. They are now taking about replacing the catalytic converter. The cat fooler is installed between the pipe and o2 sensor. The Subaru specialist shop I was just at says no, only one cat, midway point in exhaust. I would very much value your input on what I should do with respect to the recommendations I am receiving. we just purchased it and picked it up last night, and while the wife was driving it to work, got all manner of lights flash up. Hi Justin, I would appeciate your comment on my 2010 Outback. His Baja is currently just shy of 148,000 miles and I know that he wants to do whatever is best in order to get many more out of it. It could have a failed Catalyst or a rear 02 sensor, or both. Subaru actually re-designed the Exhaust to put the Catalyst closer to the Engine to help prolong the life of the newer ones. I bought a 98 Subaru Legacy GT station wagon in Nov 2012. Is it possible that my car may need to relearn running temperature and exhaust leaks and such in order to correct itself? Thanks in advance for your response. Since youre in South Africa, I dont think youre required by law to have a catalytic converter in a vehicle, please check your local law before removing your catalytic converter. Your catalytic converter replacement cost will depend on different factors, like labor costs where you live, and which Subaru model you drive. Could, over time, a caps plastic threading weaken/degrade allowing it to work itself loose with regular driving?! throttle position, coolant temp, air flow in relation to one or another.). I cant offer any savings on Convertor, there is no margin. 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