They're standing on a porch and look sweet and feminine. The only other option would have been for Chris to be full-time parent. Two years later, he is housed at Dodge Correctional Institution, a maximum-security prison, in Waupun, Wisconsin. I'd consider being three months behind on her mortgage, a husband cheating on her, credit card debt in the tens of thousands at least, and being pregnant were a few of her bigger problems, r51. Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. Her husband clearly wasn't as smart as this guy. R145, youre right about that. (not sure if that is accurate). Shanann Watts, 34, posted the photo of the shrouded doll on August 9, days before police say she and her daughtersCeleste, three, and Bella, four, were killed in their Frederick, Colorado home, on the northern outskirts of Denver. R84, "asthma" is a generic and very general diagnosis. On Feb. 18, over a span of five hours, Watts shared with investigators more disturbing details in how he killed his wife, Shanann, and their two daughters in August 2018. Unless theres a strong family history and a red flag symptom, no one that age has a fucking colonoscopy. It amazes me to see photos and videos of Bella and CeeCee and the love they had for one another is plain to see. I had trouble sleeping after reading it. However, she fell oddly silent after the post on August 9 at around 11.46pm, which showed the plastic doll lying shrouded on a leather loveseat. Just curious. The body of Shanann Watts, 34, was found in a shallow grave near an oil tank on property owned by the oil and gas company where her husband had worked. click ACCEPT. Hours later, Chris killed her and the girls. In a picture posted on August 11, she is seen at the Yard House in Scottsdale with coworkers from Le-vel, which markets weight-loss patches and supplements under the brand-name Thrive. I do not like her, but I can see why she was a breath of fresh air for Chris. Every real life character in this story is interesting, especially the victim. Why? She was a miserable user. Shannon Shanann Rzucek King Watts was a con. Shanann Watts, 34, posted the creepy image to Facebook on August 9 She appeared to think her daughters, ages three and four, posed the doll Shanann and the two girls were all killed days. A prick from my town did this a few years ago too. Someone in one of the threads said they drove through the area and it's pretty barren and underdeveloped. Someone who was asking for a murderous rage. No matter what most people do not resort to killing. He knows his wife is in CONSTANT contact with her friends. Financially she had left him no way out. Im sorry shes dead, but she was shady as fuck. Plus, there was a newspaper article written about the tire place she worked in in NC, and in the article her name was spelled "Shanann," and a lawsuit filed against her with her named spelled "Shanann.". LEONARD said that he was very interested in marriage counseling and they went to a couple sessions, but it was virtually impossible to engage SHANANN in conversation. Also a little insight into her horrendous personality from someone who knew her way back when. This is a good thread! No, R108. The man had the foresight of a gnat and zero sympathy, let alone empathy, for others. No wonder murder seemed like a reasonable option. Geni requires JavaScript! He is now Assistant Public Defender Leonard T. King in Laurinburg, NC.The day Chris confessed to her murder, Shananns ex-husband spoke with police and told them the following about their marriage. Their last hours were terrifying & uncomfortable & their deaths were neither quick or painless. Theres a story there. I can't imagine after bankruptcy etc. https://shakedowntitle.com/2018/09/30/dirty-south-customs-shananns-dirty-little-secret/. R109: if Shannnanon filed for divorce claiming adultry, pregnant with 2 children under 5, shell get what she wants. The amount received is based on the proportion each ex spouse earns, and the living arrangements for the children, and the poorer spouse gets the difference. And it was mostly consumer debt, no? And she DID turn the kids against Chris. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. You dont consider others at all, nor think about others' feelings.. She was 25. 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I'm not at all surprised she was able to get the $ to build and furnish that house. ^ Um, yes she was. Watts repeatedly talks about the murder of Shanann as this moment where he snapped because she supposedly threatened to take the kids away from him. I don't get it. Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger.. Im new to DL, didnt even know it existed until 2 days ago whilst I was googling all that spoke about Frau Shanann Watts, asides from reddit then this is the best place to talk about her, YouTube is full of irrational crazy people that cut you down if you say anything less than Shanann was a Saint, thankgods I can be real here. The Websleuths crazies who want to blame the victim come here. Excellent observation, R228. All until they were diagnosed w/asthma then Shanann w/ her neck surgery which out of pockets 25,000. r255/r257 is a moron. How did they swing this house?! And he killed Cece right next to Bella in the backseat. Spot on r147. Likely when Chris did the same thing to her she may have had some insight into herself, that this is what happened with Leonard, which caused her to try her hardest to get Chris to talk to her. It is how you build one. Chris was broken LONG before he met Shanann. Interesting he says when things were not going well in their relationship, thats when she poured herself into work, out late, not coming home at all etc. That doesn't mean that is what happened here, but it's not that cut & dry. No wonder Cindy and Ronnie Watts said she was bipolar. R28, I think they bought the house before the bankruptcy. And nursing school, befriending nurses and working in a childrens hospital? It was probably thousands of dollars in inventory combined with all that other crap they spent their money on. Sounds like he was interested in counseling but she wasn't really into it, I'm guessing. She would have moved back to NC, had her parents look after the kids, gotten a regular ole job and not have been too happy. I wish I hadn't read that final interview with the murderer. I think men (more than women) think Chris Watts is attractive. But I do wish he had let them live, and just walked off with his truck driver girlfriend. Dont interrupt me. And Chris shouldve bolted before, or right after, that ridiculous 2015 BK, where it was largely due to his wifes spending and the fact that she quit her real job. Who extends credit to a bankrupt couple living in a gigantic home? She would have freakouts where hed have to drop everything to console her. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. There were no albuterol pumps or nebulizers then. Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - Speaking about their relationshiphttps://youtu.be/2MgUoKut3UsLEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive. He was charged with five counts . It is known that she did not die until days later. Was he going to explode them in a tank and then sue? People are not born Coverts Narcissist, they become and it stems from bad parenting. What bank is giving a 20-something single woman making, what, $40k/year TOPS? SHANANN would stay gone, but he was never concerned that something happened to her.LEONARD knew that SHANANN first worked with cell phones when he met her. I'm laughing at Scam'Ann and Sham'Ann. Shanann was such a grifter. The Mead, CO explosion occured a year before the Watts murders. Nothing out of the box. Why are you so concerned about what these children look like? She got along well with people. WTF?!? Im not doubting exactly, I just need it explained. etc. The 33-year-old pleaded guilty to killing his wife Shanann Watts and their children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, in exchange for avoiding the death penalty as part of a plea deal. When the song ends, Bella blows the candles out on the round cake adorned with a butterfly on the side. But judges usually have some discretion in the awarding of child support, which can include maintaining a house for the use of the children. Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? One of the jobs typically associated with psychopaths are salespeople. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.forbisanddick.com/obituaries/Arie-King/#!/Obituary. I've been following the story somewhat closely, too. And even though I cant stand her, I kind of like how demanding and grifty she was. R23, the medical bills were because she had factitious disorder. Chris Watts. LEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive.". We are changing the login scheme for contributors for simpler login and to better support using multiple devices. Does that mean my husband should kill me, too?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Negligence. I started a post on them but apparently they are not as fun to satirize as Shannan. People with less than 2 brain cells should not be allowed to comment on public posts. And its interesting to see how people defend her nauseating videos (it was for her JOB!) and bitchiness to her husband and children (I boss my husband. LEONARD reported that he and . You have some real writing talent. He was sentenced to five life sentences without the possibility of parole, three to be served consecutively. Facebook Chris Watts . Chris Watts, then 33, had grown distant from his family and was seeing a new woman. But murder isn't the answer -- & didn't he kill their kids too? R118 Sorry. The house in CO was purchased under Chriss name, guaranteed by Shanannas mom, and then Shanann was added to the deed later. He couldve extracted himself from Shanann without too much damage. That was the elusive diagnosis that put them in debt this time. LEONARD does not believe that the divorce decree addressed the life insurance policies. And charged all the furnishings on credit. They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. She named him Nico Lee. Authorities still do not know exactly what led Chris who was having an affair with a co-worker to kill his whole family that fateful morning, after which he went on TV news to plead for her safe return.". Ack I live just north of Shannon Shanann Rzucek King Watts and there are lots of places to hike around. Shanann was born January 10, 1984 in New Jersey to Frank Rzucek and Sandra Onorati Rzucek. R78 You're probably not nearly as bad as you think you are. I spoke with LEONARD KING ( ) by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. I had no idea it was that much! Christopher Lee Watts (born May 16, 1985)[1] admitted to murdering his pregnant wife Shanann Cathryn Watts (ne Rzucek; born January 10, 1984) by strangulation. Bella especially went through absolute hell. Connect to the World Family Tree to find out, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280780/shan_ann-cathryn-rzucek, Jan 10 1984 - Passaic, Passaic, New Jersey, United States, Aug 13 2018 - Erie, Boulder, Colorado, United States, Bella Marie Watts, Celeste Cathryn Watts, Nico Lee Watts, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280791/bella-marie-watts, Clifton, Passaic County, New Jersey, United States, Frederick, Weld County, Colorado, United States, Bethesda Cemetery, Aberdeen, Moore County, North Carolina, United States, North Carolina, Mecklenburg County Marriage Index, 1884-2019, Burial of Shan'ann C. King-Watts (Rzucek), Aberdeen, Moore County, North Carolina, United States. 25 Feb/23. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN took out life insurance policies when they were married around 2004/2005 through USAA. By She left home again to attend a quick work trip on Aug. 10, returning home just before 2 a.m. on Aug. 13. No, but the evidence to support it is in the discovery, R261. 80,000 was between both of their salaries. "The hetero ladies who get their panties wet over a guy who murdered his wife and kids are creepy.". She then went to work in Charlotte, NC for a middle eastern guy that owned a tire and wheel business called Dirty South. Shanann Watts was 15 weeks pregnant, and appeared to be happily married, according to Atkinson. What's kind of interesting is that on the body cam video Chris was saying he was locked out of the bank account (didn't have the password) because he "got into trouble a long time ago" (he was implying financially). All her bad decisions and shadyness led her to her violent death. Lupus usually involves disease and loss of major organs. R181, basically what we already knew. a loan to build this house? I got smacked around for saying it, but Chris is boring and shes much more interesting. Weve never had a problem in our relationship like this. The ex states Shanann states she left because domestic violence. She spent every minute thanking God and taking care of her precious gift that the Lord had blessed her with. Chris Watts is not a sociopath. He said that she used it constantly when he knew her and she was very well attached to it. Shananns husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background.". Didnt last long, because how can you grift from a call center? Im not saying she killed anyone, but I think she goaded him. After the divorce, LEONARD kept his, but changed it to $100k and changed the beneficiary. At least we know they have each others back.'. That whole stunt with the MIL was something my mother would have done. Chris clearly has the right to sue Le-Vel. Maybe it was a neat and tidy rule. Jesus. And furnished it (with tacky shit, oh my goodness that woman liked purple and aqua). The two met in 2010 when Chriss Lee Watts was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. By clicking Accept All Cookies, you agree to the storing of cookies on your device to enhance site navigation, analyze site usage, and assist in our marketing efforts. Was she banging him, too? Bella was born December 17, 2013 in Colorado. I assume she was young and fit back then? But Colorado courts wouldve absolutely not allowed her to move out of state and take the girls, unless there was a good reason (my parents will provide day care for the kids - but they couldnt, since they both had to work) or Chris agreed. He used the same blanket to kill 4-year-old Bella . ^ That's a pic of Shan'ann. Only parents can say that. lts only one way emotions and feelings. This YouTube channel has tons of Shan'ann's Facebook Live videos where she's blathering about those sketchy Thrive products. Why is he being so cold? And then she does the usual bulldozer thing (she just couldnt help it) and buys a self-help book and demands he read it and write a fucking book report on it. Was Saturday 25 Six Nations RUGBY UNION BBCI, ITV1 & S4C The third week of the contest sees title favourites Ireland travel to Rome to face Italy (ITV1, k-o 2.15pm), before Wales welcome England to Cardiff's Principality Stadium (BBC1 & S4C, k-o 4.45pm). Chris Watts: Complete Cast of Characters | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs. They got married around 2002/2003 and divorced around 2007/2008. What was she doing? Jesus. Think before you speak. her husband texted back in June when she sent him a photo of her ultrasound picture, according to a screengrab she posted on Facebook. Because intferile people have three pregnancies in a five-year span. I hope Chris is released someday, he shouldn't have to spend the rest of his life in prison. Why did he hate those little girls so much? Lucky for these scammers theres HIPAA. In the August, 2018 video, Chris was was stunningly buff. Why the haste to get out of there so quickly? Is Colorado NOT a no-fault divorce state? SHANANN was in high school when LEONARD first met her. R166: Do you have evidence of this scamming and embezzlement? Plus the kids looked unusually old in their faces. He deserves peace. Anyway, Chris apparently told detectives some more details about his crime according to local news reports today, but the reports didn't say what. All his plans were thrown off track. He was interviewed by the CBI but he hasn't made any other public statements as far as I'm aware. NEVER. A big fat scene to get away from the MIL, complete with an ultimatum. You're projecting your own values onto him. Netflix viewers believe a murdered wife sent police a clue from beyond the grave after spotting something "creepy" in the doco about her brutal murder at the hands of her cheating husband. I thought it was very telling of Scam'Ann's personality: SHE, and she alone, will lord over the money; yet, she was such a financial liability that her name wasn't even on the house (and I'm assuming the mortgage.). Its for a specified amount of time I believe. does Chris slowly pay it back by making license plates? I will be curious to know if he was on the spectrum in some way. I remember she mentioned in her video discussing this time period she portrayed herself as a hard worker that put him through school. Please click here to get full access and no ads for $1.99 or less per month. Thank you so much, Your email address will not be published. But a physician assistant diagnosed it when all the MDs couldnt. She was not confrontational and more withdrew. Stealing the kids identities? Watts. In response to comments on the post, Shanann said that it was a '3 foot doll' that had been wrapped in 'their twister tarp thing'. Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] January 14, 2019 / crimerocket_pmfrt4 / 34 Comments. Shanann was going to become just like her mother and Chriss mother. And thats saying a lot. Probably. Shanann was 15 weeks pregnant at the time she was killed. I mean to stay would be commiting to hell. I should have been tipped off when I saw how close the Watts' house was to Nosy Nate's; they could have passed a cup of sugar without leaving their kitchens. How many of us could say we have friends that would be there the next day looking for us with cops? Has there ever been a more inept family killer? Ugh time to FF the troll who is obsessed with this sexy murderer. What a tragedy. The description of what he did to those little girls. In the early morning hours of August 13, 2018, a young mother returned home from a business trip. Chris and Shanann met in 2010 in their home state of North Carolina and got married on Nov. 3, 2012. If she was (if she was making $80K a year) she would have to end up paying him child support. Discovery Documents Ex husband Leonard . Chriss mom is a nasty soul and exhibits the toxic traits of a Narcissist herself, and so it would make sense. Thats bullshit made up by her crazy ass, psycho in-laws the ones that raised a murderer. Her mother wasnt meddling in her business. to brutally cutting off their air supply & feeling nothing as they grunt and move around under the Yankees blanket struggling to breathe? She wanted the large house. I dont trust every single thing he said & I still think he cares enough (for whatever reason) about his reputation & how people view him (close friends, family members like his mom & dad, and even Nichol K. and the public) to leave certain things out/fudge the truth about some of the incidents he described. He was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. Man, I wish he had consulted a lawyer. Chris Watts, 33, is charged with three counts of first-degree . Today, February 1, was Shannan's due date for her unborn baby. How she loved and cherished her. Watts likely justified to himself (wrongly, of course) their murders based on this. 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